Ring Clarity, Flaws, and Facets Question

by Stephanie

Hi! My fiance and I really like a ring that includes a center stone that is colorless but si2 clarity. Under the microscpoe we saw a feather-like mark at the top of the diamond. I could see this feather with my naked eye (i think) and my fiance counld not. I love this ring but do you think it matters that it includes this flaw (the flaw is also why it is priced so well). It is a round cut center stone surrounded by paves. Is it wrong to get so hung up on the clarity? its not like its a big crack in the diamond just a fingerprint right?


Also a seperate question. Another jewlery store we looked into offered diamonds cut with extra facets to give the diamonds more sparkle. Does this sound like a gimmck to you? Would the extra facets detract value from the diamond?

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Feb 14, 2009
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Certification, etc
by: Anonymous

Hi Stephanie

The industry is biased in favor of GIA certified diamonds...these are considered to be of higher quality than other certified stones. EGL Certified Diamonds wholesale at as much as 20% less than similar clarity & color AGS or GIA certified Diamonds. This reflects the diamond industry's perception that the EGL certification does not equal the standards, accuracy and reliability of the AGS or GIA certifications. Sometimes this price difference can be utilized to find a diamond prices below its actual quality but generally the owner of the diamond recognizes the true quality of the diamond and prices it accordingly.

Diamond grading is not a science: it is a subjective skill. A recent study compared the certifications for diamonds sent to the GIA, AGS and EGL-USA laboratories. The certifications done by the EGL were found to be stricter than the GIA in clarity 35% of the time and only more generous than the GIA in 6% of the stones. For color, the EGL was stricter than the GIA in 6% of the stones and more generous in 71% of the stones.

You will be just fine with an EGL certified diamond...I feel as though they are "second place" to GIA certified diamonds. Again...nobody will know who the heck certified your diamond, unless you tell them or show them the diamond paperwork.

You should definitely have 2 girlfriends (with good taste) check out the rings you are interested in...this way, you can get some neutral opinions and will help formulate in your mind, which ring is best suited for you.


As for pave settings, my engagement ring and wedding band have small pave diamonds...I haven't had any problems with them in the last three years. However, there are plenty of people who have had experiences where their pave diamonds have fallen out. I would check with your jeweler and see what the insurance policy is regarind the ring that you like...and if they would replace stones for free, should they fall out.

Feb 14, 2009
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Certification
by: Steph

Thank you so much for your quick reply I really appreciate it! It is so helpful to have some outside input on such a big decision. I had two other questions about the ring below ( the first one with all the paves). First off that ring is not GIA certified but EGL certified instead, do you think this is important? Also with a pave ring come extra care and repair probably down the road if the little stones fall out here and there, does this mean I just have to be extra careful what I am doing while I wear it? And if so is this a major downside since I love to play sports year round. I just thought of another question too :-) Do you think its a good idea to have a girlfriend give a second opinion now that i've narrowed it down to 2 or three choices?

Thanks again for your advice!

Nov 10, 2008
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Gem Ex
by: Anonymous

Wow...that's really interesting....the idea that a diamond's brilliance (the bling factor) can be scientifically measured and provide a unique reading that the other Cs cannot offer.

This if the first I've heard about the company so thanks for bringing it to my attention. I did a little looking around on the web and found some independent write-ups of the company...seems like they're a small business that has been growing steadily over the last few years. Here is one such link:

http://www.biztimes.com/news/2008/5/2/gemex-systems-inc

Nov 10, 2008
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New Rating System?
by: ProposeAlready

That's interesting. I recently read about a new rating system that doesn't focus on the 4 C's at all, but rather on the diamond's brilliance to the eye. I don't know if I'm explaining it properly, but it's called GemEx and their website provides better information than I can (www.diamondlightperformance.com). I was wondering if anyone else had heard of it, or if anyone had a GemEx diamond and what they think of it.

Thanks for your help.

Nov 02, 2008
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Ring Clarity, Facets, Etc.
by: Julie

Hi Stephanie,
If you really love the diamond ring, than don't worry about the clarity. If only you were able to see the occlusion and your fiance couldn't, chances are most others who look at your ring won't see anything as they won't be holding it close to their eyes to scrutinize it. Plus, the pave diamonds surroundign the center stone will serve as a distraction from the flaw. With my own ring, I sacrificed some of quality levels of the Cs...so I could focus on getting a larger size carat (1.29). No one has ever said anything about the color or clarity of my ring....they usually comment on how pretty it is and how the stone is a nice size.

Regarding the extra facet...it's a bit of a tricky topic, sometimes the jeweler cuts extra facets on purpose to maximize sparkliness, such as with the round brilliant cut, and sometimes jewelers cut a few extra facets to hide or get ride of flaws. I would worry less about what properties jewelers advertise their ring to have, and more about how you feel the ring looks on your finger...., so long as the diamond is GIA certified. Nobody is going to be asking you about your ring's structural properties.....they will look at it on your finger and form a quick opinion as to whether it looks pretty...as will you.

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